Donald Trump shot, Glenn Jacobs posts Trump’s response (updated)

Jul 14, 2024 - by Steve Gerweck

Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump was shot at during a rally that was being held in Pennsylvania on Saturday.

48 Responses

  1. Joseph says:

    @Disgruntled Jobber
    The same students that can’t agree on what kind of person he was in school? One says he was bullied and others said he wasn’t. Some said he was a loner and other say he had a small group of friends. Two students said he tried out for the team and one said he couldn’t hit a target 20ft away. One of those students said the coach had concerns about him. Yet the school says that he never even tried out for the team and there’s no record of him trying out for the team. The picture I’m seeing is that these classmates of his had no idea who this kid was.

    I’ve fired a rifle once or twice but I’m not going by what I know. I’m not going by what I Know but by what I read online and watched in videos. For me the shot would have been difficult because I don’t know what I’m doing. But for experts or anyone who has had training, the shot isn’t difficult.

  2. DB says:

    Protecting the rights of the individual, all individuals, from the creation of life onward, is the ultimate definition of defending freedom. As scientific research has shown from 2016, the spark of life, being the moment the sperm enters the egg, triggers a flash which starts the life building process of a human being.

    After that, it’s a reflection of one’s humanity, or lack of it, as to how they view the rights if the growing human being. For the slower people on the planet, killing an individual just for existing shows a pure lack of humanity.

  3. Luke says:

    @DB
    So, for purely political purposes, you and your kind have decided that life begins at conception. Mother Nature (I’m guessing you call her God and think she’s got all kinds of superpowers – she does, just not the kind you think, she also has to follow her own rules) begs to disagree. You will probably claim that you’re smarter, but you’re just Mother Nature’s bitch, like all of us. It’s literally her world, we’re just living in it. Fight her and you’ll lose 100% of the time.

    Just out of curiosity, we’re talking human life only, right? Because screw all other creatures that can’t complain in human when they’re being killed for fun by the same humans who preach what you’re preaching?

    Also, not that I want to be petty and point out once again that you’re not all that bright despite all the smart words and fancy syntax you want to drown everyone in, but “life building process” is not the same as life. Just as house building process is not the same as house.

    But I have a question: How many of the millions of unwanted children abandoned after birth have you adopted? Because you see, one could make a very convincing argument that leaving them to slowly rot to death is akin to killing them. And that just shows a pure lack of humanity, right?

    Second question: How often do you go to abortion clinics and offer rape victims (for example) that you’ll take the children off their hands and give them good lives when they’re born, that all they have to do is give birth?

    When a neutral guy like me without any political agenda or other affiliations whatsoever sees you as the dumbest guy in the room, it may be time to reevaluate your life. Or maybe just leave the room.

  4. Joseph says:

    When it comes to abortion I’m pro life but in certain cases like rape, incest, and to save the life of the mother, I think abortion might be a solution. But those cases aren’t a majority of abortion cases. The leading cause of unwanted pregnancy is not using contraception. That to me is the biggest problem with abortion today. It’s people not taking responsibility for their actions and killing an unborn baby simply because it doesn’t fit into their life plans.

  5. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    When you’re comparing humans to animals are you referring to those animals that eat their own young? Just curious.

    When it comes to adoption I don’t believe adoption is an alternative to abortion. On one hand you’re taking a life and on the other hand you’re abandoning the child. In my opinion, the only way to reduce the number of abortions and adoptions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. If people simply used protection that would help. Problem with that is it will never happen.

  6. Luke says:

    @Joseph
    Yup. I’m comparing humans, who rape, torture, and kill their own young (and sometimes eat them as well), to all animals, including those who eat their own young. Do you want to compare the reasons?
    Second thing: You’re talking about a utopia where there’s no stupid people or evil people. Yeah, it’ll never happen, but if you ever discover a way, let me know, I’m signing up.

  7. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    There have been documented cases of cannibalism in parts of the world due to severe famines. But how often does that happen? Now, how often do animals ear their young?

    I’m not talking about a utopia where everything and everyone is just about perfect. I’m simply saying that if people actually used contraception more often the number of unwanted births would go down. If unwanted births go down, doesn’t that mean that the number of abortions and need for adoptions would go down as well? I didn’t say it would get rid of them or that evil people won’t exist. Even though I am pro life, I don’t think abortion should be taken away. I just think that it has become too easy to use. It’s a get out of trouble card that people have used way to often.

  8. DB says:

    Please notice how certain posters keep moving the goalposts, so to speak, and keep twisting the subject at hand to make their point, often times poorly. They will claim neutrality, then throw out straw man arguments to further their own opinions, with added attacks of character towards their target of choice.

    In order for an opinion to be considered worthy, one must first respect the person who offers the opinion. You cannot respect a person that is willing to muddy the waters of a debate.

    I respect the sanctity of life, and those who respect it as well, with Glenn Jacobs being among them. We should all strive to become better human beings.

  9. Woooo! says:

    @DB

    I don’t often post here, because I like to focus more on reading the articles posted here, but I do pay attention to the comments other post.

    And, from what I’ve seen of you, you very often tend to accuse others of that which you yourself are guilty of.

    Now, I’m well aware that there’s people on here who will accuse me of being someone else (maybe it’s their attempt at taking the spotlight off themself). Unlike WrestleFan, I’ve conditioned myself not to take so seriously the remarks of people who will constantly & consistently apply standards to others that they themself don’t abide by, So, please, continue your projection & deflection; like so many other situations like that that I’ve been in, you’ll only make yourself look worse in the eyes of normal people who come here to read the articles published here.

  10. Luke says:

    Please note how certain posters are too cowardly to address a matter head on when their opinions in no way reflect facts. Please note how nothing in their rhetoric goes even a smidge outside the box of the political fraction they represent. Please note how they address the whole in a desperate attempt at validation. Please note the entertainment value in the posts of these certain posters despite their predictability. Please note the hilarity of this situation and please enjoy the ride – if that’s your cup of tea, of course. If not, please note that you really don’t have to give a crap, because you have the freedom of choice.

    @DB No such thing as “sanctity of life”. You’re killing millions of organisms when you scratch your head because you want to piss but can’t remember which bush you left whatever you’re trying to pass for a dick in. But keep it up. People from your side of the fence will see your stupidity and cowardice and think, “I’m on the same side as this guy? The hell’s wrong with me?” So never change, you’re doing much better work to expose your kind (to be clear: mindless drones) than I could ever hope to.

    @Joseph
    I see you decided to ignore the rape, murder, etc. And I wasn’t talking about famines (which, on a side note, are caused by humans, not animals). I was talking about worthless human beings who shouldn’t have the right to breathe.
    So how many animals do you know that start polishing their cutlery because a feast is coming when the female goes into labor? You know it’s a matter of instinct. Just because it doesn’t line up with our moral standards doesn’t make it wrong. What would you do if you gave birth to 15 whatevers and had nothing to feed them? Would you let the whole litter starve or would you try to rescue the ones with the best chance for survival? Again, doesn’t matter how we want to spin it, Mother Nature’s smarter than all of us (as in all humans who ever existed) put together. And – unlike humans – it’s always objective.
    I also have a question out of curiosity and I’m sure you’ll know where I’m going with this. What’s your stance on the death penalty?
    What you’re saying about abortions, I 100% agree. I also know how abortions can (and usually do) negatively impact the women who have them (note how the anti-abortion crowd never uses that argument). I never said abortion was something good. But again, the problem here is that people are getting stupider pretty much year on year. Given the realistic choice we have, I’d rather have “unborn lives” “murdered” than idiots reproducing.
    I’m also gonna go out on a limb here and guess you have no idea what it’s like to be an unwanted child.

  11. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    You’re right. I didn’t mention rape because rape is not comparable to murder. Certain animals will murder their young if they are sick or weak and some women will abort their baby for the same reason. But the difference between the animal kingdom and mankind is that while that sick animal has very little chance of surviving because it is sick or weak, that human baby does have a chance. Even an abandoned baby that is being raised in a home.
    What about the mother who can’t feed her young? Is that justification to end a life? Why stop there? Why stop with unborn babies who can’t be fed?
    Do I believe in the death penalty? Yes I do and no, I don’t think the two are comparable. In the case of the death penalty it’s more than likely that the person on death row took another life in some heinous way. In the case of an abortion, the baby did nothing wrong.

  12. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    While I agree about idiots reproducing I disagree about having the unborn life murdered. What if that unborn child was meant for something great? You say mother nature is smarter than all of us. I believe in God. I don’t follow or believe in mother nature but let’s just say it is mother nature to avoid a silly argument. Wouldn’t mother nature end that pregnancy without you having to do it yourself? If mother nature doesn’t end that pregnancy and you do, aren’t you going against mother nature because clearly if mother nature wanted that life to end, it would end it?

  13. art123guy says:

    @Joseph, Luke and DB
    I love you guys!

    But sometimes I wonder…is it possible that Joseph, Luke and DB all the same person doing some type of clever, dare I say GENIUS performance art piece that we are all blessed to witness?

    Honestly, it keeps me up at night.

  14. Luke says:

    @Joseph
    From the top.
    Animals don’t rape their young. Humans do. More often than you’d think.
    Abortion: Key word: unborn. Sperm is also alive. If you’re pro-life, do you stop jacking off? Also, you have no right to force your beliefs upon anyone. The same goes for stuff like suicide. If I want to off myself, I should have the right to do so.
    If you believe in the death penalty even a little, you’re not pro life. You can’t pick and choose your spots, that goes against the name.
    And lastly, the most fun one: Mother Nature. Contrary to God, a mythological man-made creature (I’m assuming your God is the one taught to you by your religion – if not, let me know), Mother Nature is not something you believe in, Mother Nature is everything that surrounds us. All you can dispute is the name I use. Want to call her something else? Be my guest. Mother Nature is physics, biology, math, geometry, and other sciences. Mother Nature is the laws you can’t abolish, repeal, or amend (including the ones we still haven’t figured out). Mother Nature puts out fire with water, blocks water with wood, and burns wood with fire. Mother Nature is the one who decided you can’t fly too high, dive too deep, or grow sequoias in your ass. If you succeed in life (health, not money), you’ve been following her rules. If you fail, you haven’t. You can also try to ignore her, won’t change the fact that you’re her bitch until you die and even after that. And by every law of Mother Nature, humans aren’t special. We’re parasites.

    @art123guy
    Now you got me thinking and now I won’t be able to sleep at night because of you. I hate you and I wish you abortion…

  15. DB says:

    @art123guy Kayfabe? Or not? But kayfabe-ish? Enjoy the show.

  16. Woooo! says:

    And, I will state it once again…

    Luke making the same kind of statement DB made.

    Which even more seems amusing considering art123guy’s suggestion.

    The fact that they both are the ones bringing up such an idea really says all it needs to about them.

  17. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    Do animals rape their young? Not sure but I do know that there have been times when animals mated with their offspring. I also know that certain animals use force and intimidation to mate.

    Sperm is alive to a degree but unless that sperm can fertilize an egg, it will never be anything more than sperm and die off in days. Just like the female eggs, which is also a living cell, will die off if not fertilized so that new eggs can replace them and a new cycle can begin. now I’m not a doctor or scientist but in my opinion, when the sperm fertilized the egg a new organism is created and that organism has it’s own DNA.

    Again, the death penalty and abortion is not comparable. In the case of someone on death row the courts found that person guilty beyond reasonable doubt. That person is guilty of a crime that by the law in punishable by death. What law says that an unborn baby should be aborted, an elderly person should be euthanized, or that a sick person should take their own life whether by the assistance of someone else or alone?

    You said a lot about mother nature that has no real bearing on this conversation. Mother nature is this. Mother nature is that. God doesn’t exist because I said so. Once again. If you follow mother nature and mother nature doesn’t naturally end a life, aren’t you going against mother nature if you do end that life? You said no one is smarter than mother nature but clearly you know better than mother nature because you know when a life should be taken. If you truly believed in mother nature you would let nature take it’s course and not interfere in it.

  18. Luke says:

    See, now you’re putting words in my mouth because you’re stuck in the box.
    Again, Mother Nature’s not a question of “believe”. If you don’t like the name I use, use a different one. But don’t say 2 x 2 is red.
    Never said God doesn’t exist. What I said (and stressed) was that no religion-based God exists and all religions are a lie. Now, this is my opinion, not fact. What is a fact is that at least all but one religions in the world lie. If one is indeed right, what makes you sure it’s yours? Because that’s the one that was chosen for you?
    And you can believe what you want to, I’m not standing in your way.
    Nature will take it’s course regardless and no abortion goes without consequences (mental, physical). But again, you’re making human beings out to be much more important than we really are. We’re not even a blip on the radar of the universe or time. All we have done is trash one of the countless planets.
    Where exactly did I say when a life should be taken?
    Joe, if you want to know my personal opinion, I don’t think people should have freedom in reproducing…

  19. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    How did I put words in your mouth? You said that you never said God doesn’t exist but you also said that God is a mythological man-made creature. If God is a man made creature how can God exist? Are you saying that the God of Christianity, the creator of the heavens and earth is a mythological man-made creature while mother nature is the one true god? Am I right in assuming that’s what you believe? I don’t want to put words in your mouth. What about the fact that the term mother nature was first coined in 13 or 12 BC? Doesn’t that make mother nature man made? I’m confused.

    Mother Nature’s not a question of “believe”. You then said that mother nature is physics, biology, math, geometry, and other sciences. Mother Nature is the laws you can’t abolish, repeal, or amend.
    How is mother nature not a question of believe? Do you believe in mother nature as a goddess or that nature is personified as a creative and controlling force? If I don’t believe that. Doesn’t it make it a matter of believing in it or not? I’m not saying that nature doesn’t exist. But to me, nature is not some goddess and nature is some some creative or controlling force. Nature, like mankind, is a creation of God, the creature of the heavens and the earth.

    you’re making human beings out to be much more important than we really are.
    We are important. We were created in God’s image. Sure, we’re not as important as we think we are but we’re not blips. We’re not nothing.

    Where exactly did I say when a life should be taken?
    Do you support abortion? If you support abortion you believe that a life should be taken. If you believe a pregnant woman has the right to abort her unborn child, you believe a life should be taken.

  20. Luke says:

    @Joseph
    Quote from me” “I’m assuming your God is the one taught to you by your religion – if not, let me know.” That means no religion is telling you the truth about God. That means that the individual Gods were created by the officers of their respective religions. Those Gods exist just as much as ancient Greek ones, who you’d have likely believed in had you been born in the right time and place. What that does not mean is that God does not exist. If you’re curious about my personal opinion, please define God first.

    No, it’s not a Goddess. I have no idea how I can make this any clearer. This may be your inability to think outside the box created by your religion and environment. You need a deity, you don’t comprehend any creation without one. Not putting you down, I was there myself in the past. And not saying you should go outside that box.

    (Word of advice: I’d let the God subject go. All you can get out of it is some facts that will only make you miserable. I can talk about this for weeks and I’ve spend way too much of my life researching this very subject. People with faith are happier, I’m not looking to take anyone’s faith away.)

    “We were created in God’s image.” Yeah, I was fed this line of bullcrap since I was a child. Look how nicely that aligns with your religion’s agenda. Again, not saying God doesn’t exist. Just saying that God doesn’t exist.

    I don’t support abortion. You know why? I can’t have one. It’s not my choice to make. That’s why I don’t condemn it either. I do, however, know that an “unborn child” is a parasite (yeah, sounds harsh, but look up the definition and tell me where I’m off). You can’t force anyone to keep a parasite.

  21. Joseph says:

    @Luke
    I’m tired of this conversation but I’ll answer you.

    You say no religion is telling the truth about God.
    That’s your opinion. One I don’t share and arguing about it is wasted time.
    You say it’s not a goddess.
    Okay, what is it? A force? What?

    You need a deity, you don’t comprehend any creation without one.
    You’re right, I can’t comprehend creation without a creator. Simply doesn’t make sense to me.

    I don’t support abortion. You know why? I can’t have one. It’s not my choice to make. That’s why I don’t condemn it either.
    You can’t have a baby but you are part of the creation process. In my opinion, that should give you some say in it.

    I do, however, know that an “unborn child” is a parasite (yeah, sounds harsh, but look up the definition and tell me where I’m off). You can’t force anyone to keep a parasite.
    A parasite is an organism that survives in or on another species, usually at the expense of its host.
    Both a fetus and a parasite rely on the host for nutrients and support, the fetus however is genetically related to the host (the mother) and is a natural part of the reproductive process. A fetus is not another species.

  22. Luke says:

    @Joseph
    It’s a name I use to encompass all the laws of nature. It’s not a physical or metaphysical being. It’s not something that’s aware. But it’s something that exists beyond a shadow of a doubt, it’s not a question of belief. Think of it as the constitution, just an objective one where everything always makes sense and nothing ever changes. No amendments possible. I just thought this name would be most appropriate to convey the meaning. I may have to rethink that strategy. I hope this finally makes it clear.

    I’ve taken advantage of that say by having never created a child. With full intent. I always did everything in my power so the women I had sex with would never have to make this decision. I also got a vasectomy around 10 years ago. (Side note: if anyone is wondering, zero effects whatsoever on your libido or sex life.) Would have gotten one earlier, but it was illegal before. (How’s that for restriction of liberty?) But I still don’t try to force others to “do as I do or say”. You either give people freedom or you don’t, anything else just creates a wonderful space for political (and religious, since religion is really nothing more than politics) manipulation. Also, most people are too stupid to act this way. Again, I’m very much against the stupid reproducing.

    There’s another thing I completely forgot about, I think I’m getting old… If you ban abortions, you won’t make them magically go away. You just open the underground abortion market. Over here abortions are illegal. Who cares? They just cost more. And they’re less safe, because you can’t sue anyone if something goes wrong. I personally know a girl who got pregnant (by choice), went to her gynecologist to lead her through the pregnancy, and heard that “there are other options”. In words you can’t take any legal action over, of course. She never even suggested that that’s what she’s after.

    A parasite is an organism that cannot survive on its own and feeds on its host, it does not have to be “another species”. (Yes, I had to look it up.) A fetus fits the bill perfectly. Show me a woman who doesn’t suffer through pregnancy. And it still is the natural reproductive process. The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

    Wanna move to the Trump vs. Biden discussion? This one may break the site…

  23. Joseph says:

    Do I want to move this discussion? No, not really. It was a fun little distraction but it’s run it’s course. Right now I’m enjoying reading the Glenn Jacobs calls for Joe Biden resignation comments.

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