Two WWE superstars: “Vince just doesn’t see anything in them”

Feb 16, 2021 - by Steve Gerweck

A fan wrote into Dave Meltzer and asked the status of both Aleister Black and Andrade. He replied “Vince just doesn’t see anything in them. They were two guys Paul Heyman thought of highly but once he was removed from power it was downhill for them. The only one that ended up not being completely f**ked was Shayna because I guess they like the idea of Shayna and Nia Jax, so she got brought back. But pretty much everybody else, they’re with Bo Dallas in catering.”

Black hasn’t been used since September and Andrade since October.

6 Responses

  1. MRK says:

    I kind of get why Andrade isn’t being used; doesn’t really speak English all that clearly. Aleister Black has everything Vince would want in a star.

  2. dooman says:

    but he see’s a lot in wrappers like black rabbit

  3. Revan says:

    Hmm. “They were two guys Paul Heyman thought of highly but once he was removed from power it was downhill for them.” Vince still makes the final call, right? So what difference does it make whether Heyman is still “in power” or not?
    This is always the narrative. Rumors say Raw is “in chaos”? Rumors say Vince doesn’t see anything in some wrestler? Oh, it’s because Heyman was removed from power. Makes no sense at all. Like most of the stuff Meltzer says.

    Not to defend Vince or WWE, though. @dooman has a point.

  4. mth says:

    What Raven said. Heyman’s stuff still has to get Vince’s stamp of approval. Anyone he was pushing was still getting the green light from Vince. And it wasn’t all that long ago that the word was Vince was high on the Andrade/Vega pairing and that Black was the other option for Drew’s spot beating Brock at Mania. And I was just reading on another site a few weeks ago that there are supposedly big plans for Black coming soon. Granted, Vince is known to flip-flop on a whim, so who knows, and that’s really the point. It’s often right after news like this that the guys suddenly return and start something worthwhile.

  5. Nolo King says:

    They are both painfully average, so it makes sense.

    Aleister was decent in the ring, but he is way too small to be taken seriously against most of the roster. It’s a big reason I dread to see people from NXT get called up because most of them look like enhancement talent. People hint at Undisputed Era taking over the main roster and the thought of that makes me laugh heartily.

    Andrade was useless outside of a few inconsistent ring work. Average performer with no mic skills at all. Even if you look past the language barrier, he still wasn’t convincing. Look at how Asuka can engage people in spite of not knowing the language. Being overshadowed by Garza didn’t help either.

    I’m fine with them going to AEW to either bulk up or develop better character.

  6. art123guy says:

    If I remember correctly, Vince gave Heyman a year or so to turn the ratings around. It’s possible Vince let Heyman push who he wanted during that time with a wait and see approach to certain wrestlers. Once Heyman was let go, Vince pulled the plug on anyone he didn’t like or who didn’t get over during Heyman’s time.

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