Mike Chioda Reveals Order Razon Ramon Gave Him Before Infamous 1-2-3 Kid Match

Dec 12, 2020 - by Steve Gerweck


Conducted by Wrestling Inc. Managing Editor Nick Hausman

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On being the referee the night The Lightning Kid pinned Razor Ramon and became the 1-2-3 Kid:

That was great. There was probably, I want to say, maybe 500 – 1,000 people in that arena but what a wrestling vibe that was. That was an amazing match being from a perspective of some young kid coming in, which became X-Pac, and he was the 1-2-3 Kid. Razor came up to me all day long because he loved how I counted. A lot of false-count finishes. One, two, kick out. Not today, you’d be on the same page as almost counting three and kicking out.

He says, “Man, I want you to make this the fastest count ever.” He really didn’t want to do the job because I don’t think they were that great of friends at that point yet. They became good friends. He was like, “I want you to count as fast as you can. It’s your ass if you don’t count fast. You’ll make me look stupid sitting there for a long three.” That’s when it was old school man. They cared about their character and cared about who they were doing a job to. We’ll be talking about that someday on AdFreeShows, a watch-along, hopefully coming up someday.

On getting to referee Hulk Hogan vs The Rock at WrestleMania 18:

It took us way off guard. It took everybody off guard. In my career at that time, almost 20 years ago and being in the business that long for 15 years at that point, it was phenomenal to see where Hogan in the early ’80s when I started in this business to where he got the company into what he did is as an entertainer in the professional wrestling business, in the industry.

He was an icon throughout so many years in the business and still is one of the icons in the history of the business today. When Rock came up, and he was another icon, it was just icon against icon. It was something that was great to be a part of. It was unbelievable. It is one of the most memorable matches in my history and my career.

On how it was going over the match with Hulk and Rock before heading to the ring:

Well, you had two old school wrestlers at the time. Hogan being from where he came from, he’s just being old school, and then you had a third generation [star]. You had two old-school two icons. A lot will be told on Saturday (on the watch-along he is doing for AdFreeShows.com), what was going on backstage [and] where that match was supposed to be. It was just something I’ll never forget. It was great to be a part of that.

That was one match that took place, and unfortunately, I was the referee for that match. Fortunately, at that time, being in the business 15+ years, I was glad to be a part of it. I was kind of picked for that match by the talent and all the way coming from the top guys in the business as far as Vince, and the writers and everything.

On joining AdFreeShows.com’s “Mailbag Mondays” so he can tell more of his stories:

Conrad Thompson got a hold of me, and we touched base. We had a little bit of a conversation and just thought this would be a fantastic thing with 35 years of experience and telling my stories. The referees, basically, really don’t tell their stories, and aren’t able to tell their stories and don’t even have a character anymore in the business, but it’s great that AdFree and Conrad reached out to me.

And I think things are going phenomenal. I love to continue everything every week, every couple weeks. Them guys are great putting me on the charts. I mean AEW’s keeping me alive a little bit, and AdFreeShows is definitely keeping me alive. I appreciate that.

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