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Former creative members discuss the Katie Vick angle‏

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Former WWE creative members Seth Mates (@sethmates) and Chris Gough (@kcmetropro) were guests on The LAW’s ‘Review a Wai’ podcast this past Wednesday to chat about the October 21st 2002 ‘Katie Vick’ edition of Raw.

The full show and interview is available for download at as well on iTunes and the free Stitcher app.

Here are few excerpts from the interview with quotes from Mates and Gough:

At this point, (Vince) wanted to start having a lot more backstories to wrestlers. He didn’t want it just to be like, “Oh, I wanna beat you up. You stole my girlfriend, let’s have a match.” He wanted it to be more like, “I wanna know who every character is.” Their backgrounds, and a lot of that. You’ve seen through the years of wrestling, he’s gone up and down with this kinda stuff.

It was just a matter of, “We want to know more about Kane. We know about Paul Bearer and the burning angle, and the Undertaker scenario, but we don’t really know much more about him. So let’s spend the last ten minutes of this conference call discussing Kane’s background and coming up with a way to bring Kane back,” because he had torn his bicep, and he was coming back to TV. It started off with us pitching ideas about how to bring Kane back.

At the end of the call, Vince basically made the call to say, “Why don’t we make Kane…why don’t we say he’s a murderer, and he’s murdered somebody in his past? It sort of formulated into what you saw. This was Vince’s seed.

The necrophilia thing had only really begun in that vignette. That vignette was done by Stephanie (McMahon), Vince, and Bruce (Pritchard), and I believe it was mostly Stephanie; Stephanie Triple H, and Vince were the ones behind that. This wasn’t discussed; Triple H was involved the whole time, so no one had to explain it to him. He was obviously almost part of the family at the point, he knew everything that was going on. Kane, on the other hand, he was getting a little bored with his direction. He had the big start in ‘97, and it ran its course. He wanted to change it up a little bit, so they decided they were gonna push him to go for a title run eventually, for the World Heavyweight Championship against Triple H in October. It was a situation where he knew it was going to be a big push, he’s taking on Triple H. The angle was basically, “There’s a backstory here where he’s gonna start picking on you for your girlfriend dying, and that he’s gonna start acting like you killed her, and he’s gonna start playing more emotional mind games with Kane.” That was the pitch, with Triple H and Kane. There was no, like, “Hey, by the way, he’s gonna say that you banged your ex-girlfriend when she was, uh, dead.” That was never even talked about until the vignette aired, and it really wasn’t talked about after that again. That wasn’t an idea by a writer, that wasn’t pitched to anybody. That was the vignette that was of the sick minds of the McMahon family that was taped in the funeral home that night.

Transcribed by Chris Maffei

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6 Responses

  1. bah says:

    Necrophiliacs of the world, unite! Vote for Linda McMahon!

  2. Tim says:

    Totally and 100% believable. But I do think Kane and everyone else would have went along with it had they known. Just to be “YES MEN”

  3. Guled says:

    at least it was better than the stuff nowadays

  4. As untasteful and downright stupid as that angle was you can’t at all say that it wasn’t damn memorable and that’s what the late 90’s early 2000’s were good for, they brought out interesting downright strange and most noteable memorable moments to wrestling.

  5. dave says:

    Yeah necrophilia is up there with anti-establishment and pillmanizing, Kyle!

    The storyline sucked up until that point anyway but up until the infamous skit, it still beats the Aj-Punk-Bryan angle today.

  6. Hipnosis says:

    Kane should have been World Champion and AT LEAST put his mask back on once it was taken off :( sad sad story :( lol

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